Episode 3: Revenge of the Riff

Our insanely accurate opinions on Music, that nobody wants to hear and honestly...who cares!!!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:37

From Goodyear Heights to music with lovers everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Welcome back to Bearded and Crunchy Episode Three, Revenge of the Riffs. Thank you everybody for listening to us. Last week and the week before we're back. Please follow us on all socials. Again, we're on everything. Welcome back to episode three. And I'm going to send it back to Bob or let us bring it in.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Episode three, can you believe that already? Yeah, three episodes.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

And we've talked at nauseum about what we were going to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

This is a special episode to us. Yeah. The reason why our setup is the way it is, uh, our first three episodes, we want to talk about the three things that we talk about the most. Right. And make specials. Now next week we'll go back to like a normal podcast where we talk about everyday life, funny stuff, whatever comes to our mind. But we kind of wanted to dive deep into our little likes and hobbies and stuff like that. And this episode is very special to the both of us. Very Bob, I'll take it away.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

And again, we have talked at nauseam over the years of our friendship at this point about music. And having known what you did younger, being in a rap group, and you know that I played in a in a rock band for about five years before I was stupid and had children. Which I love to death, don't get me wrong, and became uncool, according to my daughter. But I was really thinking about it. I was like, you know what, what shaped us into what we love musically? And I know what shaped me and I know what I love, but what shaped what you love musically? What brought you to where you're at and what you enjoy every day?

SPEAKER_00 2:30

So um this is kind of a loaded answer. Question and answer. Uh music was always in my house. I mean, I I can go back to days of being a kid and remember the because you know back in the day nobody had air conditioner, so it'd be a we'd be on summer break, uh, I'd be five or six years old. Uh doors and windows would be wide open. It's eight o'clock in the morning. No TV on my dad's just listening to Pink Floyd. Oh, nice. Uh my mom, she would listen to she loved Pink Floyd too, but she listened to Elvis and a lot of other stuff. So music was a part of my uh my life as far back as I can remember. Um and then at some point uh I came across uh the radio. And back then, if I remember right, I can't remember the radio station, but there was 93.1 WZAK, which was more of like an RB, but then there was like a like a hip-hop station. And I remember hearing hip-hop, it was just like, yo, what is this? Like, there's no guitars, there's like no, you know, because that's you know, my dad was he was fairly racist and just the type of person he was, so you know, hip-hop was not in my household. Um and I heard it and I was like, yo, what is this? And then I found out my dad didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Oh rebellion right away.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

So that made me go, oh, I'm fucking with this. Yeah. Uh and there there's a lot more details to that, but I'll leave it at that. But what I will go to is the defining moment that I remember. What made me realize that like I really loved hip-hop, and what made me want to attempt hip-hop was the Wu Tang Casuals Everything Around Me video. Oh, nice. Uh I'll never forget the day I came home from school and I was watching videos. We all know back in the day BET used to have the basement and other stuff like that. Right. You know, even before this was before the basement, but there were shows like that. And I'll never forget seeing all nine of them dudes just in an alleyway and in like a back junkyard with a five-gallon drum on fire, just rapping. And yeah, for whatever reason, that just stuck. It just changed. Nice. It just I I saw that and I was like, I mean, for whatever reason, I was like, that's that's the coolest thing. This is the coolest shit I've ever seen. I believe you. And you know, again, I still love music. Uh love rock music, love 90s RP, but you know, everybody knows hip-hop is basically my personality. So uh yeah, that's that's it in a nutshell. Like I said, it could go way deeper than that, but that's that's the Cliffs Notes version of it. Cliff's notes, yeah. Um that's why I posed that question. Yeah, yeah, that's uh that that was a loaded question. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

I knew it was gonna be a good answer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

So uh ultimately, what really I guess there was, you know, we could say the stars aligned, but ultimately it was was let me let me let me go against what my dad let me rebel. Nice. And it turned into a 40 plus year love affair. Oh, yeah. So what about you? I mean, we I know a few of these things, but let's tell our audience.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Yeah, you do. I mean, I I figure, like I said, we've talked at nauseum. I mean, Christ, we've been friends for over half a decade, and uh mine is kind of weird, man. It we it's weaved its way. Like when I started listening to music, obviously, same situation. My parents always had music going. My grandpa always had music going. I heard music at his house from old real to real. Oh wow. From like when he was in the military in the 50s and 60s. My mom loved Elvis as well. Kind of funny you mentioned that.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

That that's a boomers that's a boomers thing.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

In fact, so much so that we played Elvis Gospel at her, you know, viewing and funeral when she passed. That's what she wanted. She's like, You better play Elvis Gospel. Alright, mom, no problem. That's what we'll do. That's what we did. Yeah. So mine kind of started just loving everything because my dad is like into oldies, you know, 60s, 70s. He loves Motown, hard rock from back then, like, you know, Zeppelin and Sabbath and things like that. I'm not such a big Zeppel fan.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

We'll get into those later.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Mom was kind of the opposite, it was more of the you know, top 40 stuff, you know, like I said, Elvis, and then country. She loved country music. And I started kind of well-rounded, really loved all of that stuff. And then as I grew up and got a little older, I had friends influencing me in the neighborhood. Strangely enough, the strange neighbor, or the same not strange neighbors. Well, if you have a strange neighbor. I mean the same neighborhood that you grew up in, but a block away.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Ironically, didn't know that till we were adult. Like we'll talk a little bit more about our personal lives next episode. But yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

But influenced by my friends who were as well into hip hop, so I went through a little phase enjoying that, and then got into high school and had a friend, still have a friend actually, who's my best man at my wedding. Uh big, big metal head. Loved everything metal. Bob, you should listen to this. You should check this out. And I remember getting this CD, and it had little white crosses on it. Master of Puppets. You got it. And I said, Holy crap, what is this? And mind you, this is like 97, so it's already been out for 12 years in the world. The black album had been out for like five years at that point. Right. And that's when it when it really started to kick in for me, where I went on my own musical journey during that time of my teenage years, really delving into what I wanted to listen to and what I started to like, which my dad hated too. I'm telling you, it goes it goes hand in hand, right? And that's kind of where we're at to this day. I'm still a metal junkie, everything metal, metal core, heavy metal, hard rock, classic rock, metal, new metal, still like I still have my hip-hop side, and you know that.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

Of course. Yeah, but see, you're not as interesting. You're stuck in the 90s. Yeah, exactly. 90s, early 2000s, and then that's where me, I I still, you know, obviously getting older, there was a study I seen years ago, because I can never understand it. Like, no matter how much we like new music, like you know, artists like um uh Wu-Tang has released recent albums, Eminem has released, even Pink Floyd. Um, and although you love them, if you ever notice they don't have that feeling. Yeah, from the ages of something I think they said like 15 to like 28 or something, there's a range. Right. And you associate, because you're still really finding yourself, you associate that music to a time period in your life, and that's why you can't get that feeling again, because it's not the music, it's the music is the soundtrack to that time in your life, and you can't get that back. So I find that interesting, the psychological, you know, the psychological side of it. Yeah. Um, but yeah, um, music has been my therapy for not not knowing it. Not knowing because I can remember, you know, going to my uncle's house who who ironically uh where I live now only lived like a 45-second drive from where I live now.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

No shit.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah. But um I one thing I will say, we didn't have a lot of money, but I always had a walkman or a disc man with music. And I would have with the old hard plastic with a thin um foam wrapped around it and the metal top headphone, and I would give you a scalp. And I would go to the grocery store with my mom every Saturday, uh, my mom and my grandma, and I I would have it on.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Hell yeah. Uh just drown out the world.

SPEAKER_00 10:49

Just it it was my world. Um I could listen to whatever I want, I could imagine whatever I want. Um, and a fun fact back to that, uh, I don't even know if any of my friends knew this, but I could hear Viney and Jermaine now. So the very first time I wrote my own lyrics to anything, I was 12 years old, and it was to it was a good day by Ice Cube. Nice. And obviously, I was 12. So what I did was is I wrote down all of his. I we did like we used to do before, like they did have boom boxes where you could just record from the radio, but before that, you had to have two radios and have one that was recordable and one that could play. So I would you would wait on the radio for your song that you wanted, and you would record it. So I would I would record it and then I would play it and rewind it, play it and rewind it until I had all of his lyrics, and then I wrote down mine, replacing certain words with mine, and that's how I wrote my technical first song, first rap. It might be uh plagiary uh oh, it absolutely was, but it was also 1990.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Plagiaristic or 1993. So that is funny though. That I mean that's a great idea.

SPEAKER_00 12:02

That just already shows like how it was the only way the thought process. I even did that so uh fast forward to my junior year. Fun fact uh I I performed at Mayday that year. Nice uh with my buddy Jeff, who ironically is the reason I am friends with Jermaine 30 years later. No shit. If it wasn't for him, I we would have never crossed paths.

unknown 12:27

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

Uh but we we we we performed at Mayday, and it was to a silk the shocker song for all you know limit guys, that was very popular. Um and even up to that point, I was still doing that. Wow. Um, my verse, I took whose verse it was for that verse and wrote theirs down and then just changed everything. Nice. But I did that because at that point I couldn't understand counting bars, right? Right. So I just had the rhythm of the words, and that's how I could follow before I learned how to go one, two, three, one, one, two, you know, and count bars. But at the time I didn't, you know, I just didn't know. So that was how I counted bars. Nice. Um, and and we performed there. And the iron the irony is I for I was so nervous. It was the first time I'd ever performed uh to the point where I had to wear sunglasses because I'm not kidding you, I was shaking. Oh, yeah, I was so scared. And I ended up forgetting a line, and it was crazy because everybody still went nuts.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Yeah, nobody cared. It was stupid.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

I mean you never forget that. It was so dope. I forgot a line, but we we nailed it.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

I now that you're talking about stuff like that. I remember my first show I played. We played at this dive bar in Highland Square called Annabelle's. I'm sure you've been there. I have been to Annabelle's. I'll never forget.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

I I think it's named something. I think I think they changed the name. Yeah, because I think it's but I'm pretty sure it's a different name.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

It was it was a cool place to play show. But I remember I I sound checked, right? And I had been woo-hoo a little bit before the show because I was nervous, obviously, you know. And I'll never forget I'm playing the first song and I'm yelling at the sound guy, like, turn me up! I can't hear myself all the way through the first song, and I finished the song and I looked down, my dumbass forgot to put in, like, plug my chord back into my guitar.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

And I felt like the biggest asshole like you could imagine.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Yeah, but that's that's him first time. Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

And then after that, man, it was like smooth sailing.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Yeah, that's I'll tell another quick story before we start really diving into our music likes and stuff. Um after graduation, me and Jermaine and and and our other buddy Vonnie, we would get together and we would in the Napster days, the Napster days, we would download instrumentals and we would get music that we wanted. Uh legally, of course. Legally, we did it legally. Um and we we would freestyle. Uh-huh. And we would just cipher. So that's for all you young kids or or people that don't know, a cipher is where you get a bunch of people that it could be a cappella, it could be somebody, you know, tapping on a table, they could be making a beat with their mouth, and and you're just freestyling, you're going off the top of the head. And we would do that. Also, off to the side, um, we had a couple of buddies, Dre and Maul, and you remember Steve Bergstrom? Mm-hmm. I do. Yes, he was in a rap group with them, um, who I eventually was uh gonna replace at one point, but that's another story. Um, but we were doing with them. We had me and Germaine met with a guy that was gonna record us, but uh there was a place I can't remember what it's called now, but it was in North Hill, but it became the it was called the Voodoo Lounge. Bro.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

I was gonna tell a story about the voodoo.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

In fact, I would on I want to say it was Thursday nights, and I could be wrong, but it was hip-hop night, and they would have battles. So I think we went up there like four or five deep, maybe, and we all signed up. And uh I'll make this as quick as I can. But we all signed up, and we're sitting there, and then we thought, we're new here, everybody's got their crowds. You can see that they have their crowds. Like a click. Let's watch them put us against each other. And sure enough, they did the very first battle, they put me and Jermaine against each other.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

No, I kid you not.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

So, needless to say, that was yeah. But all right, let's let's delve into this. Um man, this is gonna be a tough. You know what? Let's let's start with just because I feel like this one's gonna be fun. This was one that Bob actually came up with um last minute. Um, I don't want to say last minute, but it just popped in his head and he threw it to me, and I thought it was brilliant. But let's let's go with and and and because of time strengths and stuff like that, we're gonna do most iconic slash favorite album covers of all time.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

Album covers.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

Oh, you meant song covers.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

We could do album covers too. We could go there too. Oh, see, that's up to you. Okay, that's interesting. It doesn't matter to me.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

All right. I'm good with whatever. No, no, we'll we'll come back to that. Cover songs? We'll do cover songs first. You guys are seeing it in real time.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

All right, we'll do cover songs. Um, and we'll come back to that because now you can think about it. Because I was under a different, so now at least you can think about it. Um cover songs, cover songs.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Who doesn't enjoy a great cover song? Here's the thing as long as it's done.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

And and me, me and Rihanna have talked about this, and it's gonna go to your last point many a times because we love covers. Um as long as whoever's doing it does it justice and doesn't in any way disrespect the original. I agree. When it's garbage, it's actually that and and there are there are examples of covers that are better than the originals. Yeah. And we'll talk about one of them, which I'm sure both of us are gonna bring up. But um, if you want, since this was your um you came up with the idea on Lead Us Office.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Some of our favorite cover songs. Yeah. What you know, for me, honestly, and we talk about this too at nauseum. In fact, I think my daughter finally listened to the entire album, and you know what album I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Oh, yeah, it's it's the it's the greatest uh cover album of all time. Weezer, the teal album. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

I'm gonna say what they did with Aha covering that song by them, it is just I no longer listen to Toto's Africa.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

I'll put it to you like that.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

That's all awful good too. That's all they did a great job on all of that.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

I will I will tell you where they got me because when you listen to it the first time, it's very awkward. But what got me, because I you if you know Weezer, you know Weezer was the fact that they did no scrubs, right? And I was like awkward as shit, but it was awesome every second of that show.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Because they're just quirky enough that it works, dude.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

They're Billy Jean. Good. I mean, the entire album, there's not one that you can go, right? They're all great.

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Phenomenal. Um and that's not even my like those aren't even my top covers.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

No, they're that's that that has to have its own group because none of them are bad, and some of them are as good as the originals, but I would agree. Because it's an album, I I I won't I wouldn't choose any of those individually. I'd kind of keep that.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

I would say, I mean, honestly though, I would say Take on Me by Aha is I mean, that cover that or absolutely so damn close to the original.

SPEAKER_00 19:53

Actually, that and Everybody Wants to Rule the World.

SPEAKER_01 19:55

Oh, dude, I forgot that was even on there.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

That's what I'm saying. The more we talk about it, we can go into each one. Um, I I will say one first that I don't think you're gonna mention, and I don't know if you've heard it, um, but I really think you should listen to it. Um T Pain doing War Pigs. I've heard it. It's amazing. Guys, you have to check that out.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

And people are gonna shit on it. But it's possible.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

But if you really listen to it, he doesn't try to do the T-Pain thing. He tries to I'll give it to you like this. Ozzie Osborne liked it. Yeah. He said it was one of the best covers he had ever heard. Right. No, I've heard it. I heard him um it was fantastic. Oh my god. It it it's so slipped on. Guys, if you're listening, I promise you you will not be disappointed. He made an album of covers as well. Oh, really? I did not know that. Uh I will I I apologize, I don't have it up, but I will look it up because it needs to be um discussed. Um but since I went with that, uh what's one what's one that's on your mind?

SPEAKER_01 21:09

As soon as I get the congestion out of my throat from the weather. I'm gonna go with a five-finger death punch cover.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

I already know which one.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Yeah. Blue on black.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

That's amazing too. But did you know they covered Mama Said Knock You Out?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

I actually, now that you said that, I I do you know who do you know who featured on that song? Uh Tech Tech Nine. That's right. That's right. I I'm not gonna lie to you, I completely forgot about that side. And that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

That's a sleeper pick, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Um, just to go back real quick, guys, you're gonna love it. Look at the cover of this. So for for all the people watching, um, it's called On Top of the Covers, if you get to Antondra. He does Don't Stop Believing Bruh Jay. Stay with me, Tennessee whiskey, war pigs. He nails it. But uh I man, I forgot about that. That's a good one. Um I am gonna go on the same vein as that, and a lot of people may not know this. I'm gonna go corn the wall. That is I'm I'm I'm gonna talk about that one, but I'm gonna save that for a later section.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one?

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Word up by Cameo.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

That was a that was a cover, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Uh huh. I never think because they it was so different. It was different, but they but they still sounded like the song. Right. Uh that's actually one of my favorites. I I it sticks in my I I literally have a playlist.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

And I do like corn.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Oh, I love corn.

SPEAKER_01 22:45

I do like corn, they're awesome. I'm not so hip on the new new stuff. It's good, but it's not again.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

I think that goes back to the you know what I said about uh you know the feelings and the stuff that we have. Um as we get older, we don't have as many emotional attachments to things. But um now I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Um for me, I think personally, this and again, this is my opinion. Uh actually, I have two. I'll get to the second one last. Actually, I'll take that back. Let me go to this one first and then we'll zombies by bad wolves. Bro. Um that I love cranberries, right? And that cover is beautiful. It's better. The cover is better.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

Um I love that cover.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

It's such a good. I was on a bad wolves kick for quite a quite quite a quite a bit.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Um I heard Tommy Vexed was coming back to Bad Wolves, which would be killer.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

There was a political thing with why he left and all of that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:48

I think they buried the hatchet though, finally.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

Well, maybe maybe I hope Tommy Vexed is the voice of the very unique uh in his story. If you've ever heard him tell his story, yeah, it's crazy, dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

But um I got mad love for that guy because when Ivan Moody from Death Punch went into rehab and shit, he helped him, he covered a lot of tour dates and he just nailed it.

SPEAKER_00 24:14

And I thought he he he reached out to him, he kept going to him.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yep. But I thought if this dude doesn't come back to this band, they got a good singer right there that they could just be like, hey man, I would hate to see that because I love five.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

I like Ivan. That dude's a So do you have one more before because I'm I'm pretty sure when I mentioned this last one, if you don't mention it, you're gonna agree.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

My favorite cover of all time. And I'm gonna get a lot of shit for this and I don't care. But I'm a massive Metallica fan. And the fact that they covered turn to page and Bob Seeger goes, that's probably better than mine.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

It is better.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

I would agree. That's my favorite cover. Is that on your list?

SPEAKER_00 24:58

It's one of the best covers I've ever heard. It's so much and I love Bob Seeger. Right. Uh he made a lot of lot of great, great songs. Oh, yeah. Um, but but I think this last that's your favorite. This one's my favorite, and you're gonna as soon as I say it, you're gonna be like it's Disturbed, the sound of silence. No, killer. To this day, it's the best cover I've and I'm gonna tell you two fun facts about that. Okay. The lead singer Disturbed is a 420 friendly, but he does not do it before shows, and he does not do it before recording.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

He gotten stoned off his ass, and they asked him to record this. And he he did it in defiance. And he did it in one take. I can believe that. And I just there's nothing better to me that I mean I can hear that, and I I will never skip it. Uh his voice is it's such It's haunting. It's a haunting song, and the fact that a heavy metal group was able to fucking do what they did with it is absolutely insane.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

And it's completely different than the original by Simon and Garfunkel.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

It's not even the same song. I mean, it's the same song, but it's not even the same song.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

And I can tell you last so last year they were in Cleveland, up at Rocket, and I took my daughters with my sister, and because they were playing the 25th anniversary of the sickness, all the way through an entirety. Yep. Which was it was badass. The whole show was killer. Took an intermission, came out. And it's getting later in the set, and my daughter goes, Dad, I really hope they play Sound of Silence.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

It'll be the last one.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

I'm like, baby, I hope they do too. I know, I know they it's a it's such a huge hit for them. I know they'll play it. And it's like two-thirds of the way through the the second set, basically. And they wheel out this piano, and she had no idea. And I'm like thinking to myself, this is it.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

Yep, they're gonna play it.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

This is the song that my daughter wants to hear that she's gonna lose her shit over. And they did, and they started it in the nice piano melody, and then they really kicked in, yeah, and they really kicked in, and I've got pictures of her. I mean, she's just like and then she's just singing and just having a blast. And it was her f that was her first ever concert. That's awesome. And it was it was them, and we surprised them. Me and my sister knew about it. We had bought tickets and we surprised them, and they had no idea. We were actually driving to Cleveland just to get out. And they're like, What are we doing? Why are we with dad and auntie? They call my sister Auntie. And they're like, Oh, you'll see, you'll see, you'll see. And we're literally like in independence. And it's like, you guys like Disturbed? Yeah, Dad, we really yeah, we really like disturbed. We, you know, one of our favorites. Okay, cool. We're going to we're going to see him live. And dude, the car like just shook, screaming, like bouncing off the windows. But such a great time.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

That's awesome. All right. Um, all right, what do we go to now? Let's uh let's get into some of our favorite artists and what what got us into them and stuff like that. Yeah. That sounds good. Uh I'll go first just because first of all, our firsts are gonna be obvious to anybody that knows us that's listening to this. So um damn it, man. Wu Tang. I mean, we know. I got two tattoos. Um I mean I'm I'm literally wearing the shirt from uh the Wu Tang Nas concert that I went to with my cousin.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

What am I rocking? I I'm rocking the I'm rocking the shirt from my children's high school marching band spectacular last year, which I'm very proud of my children for that. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Um what really was well, like I said, I kind of talked about it earlier with that. I seen that video and that was it. And then I'll never forget, and this is gonna play into something that I had brought up, the album covers, but I put them on their first album cover because there's a story behind the Enter the 36 Chambers. Um well, it's called the 36 Chambers, Enter the Wu-Tang, but um uh everybody didn't show up because if people if you don't know, there's nine members in Wu Tang. Um sounds like Slipknot. Yeah, there's a lot, and not everybody showed up for the cover of that album. Really? Which meant there was gonna be people not on it, so they put white stockings on their faces, and then there was like one of the producers put one on and all of that, so there were still nine members on the cover which couldn't tell who was who. But um Wu Tang was always like I mean they the ODB put out a whole campaign, Wu Tang is for the children. Like they always just no matter how big they got, they always felt like they were for the fans and for us. It never felt like they were, no matter how global they went, no matter how big they went, they just never felt like they were out of touch. And definitely what they did, how they were able to have longevity, and yes, there was times when they split and didn't make music together, but what they did as a collective needs to be studied with nine people to be able to make all nine of them have solo careers, and it it's a thing to be studied, but I mean everybody knows me, man. It's it's Wu-Tang, it's everywhere in my life.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

And you just you got to see him what two two years ago? 2021.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

September or no, September 2022.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

Was it that long ago? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

I remember September 2022. Uh, they did the uh Wu Tang Nas. Uh it was called um State of New York. Um wait a minute, what was it?

SPEAKER_01 30:55

New York State of Mind.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

New York State of Mind tour. Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

I can read them.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

I'm asked. Um Yeah, and it was at Blossom, right? Oh, and it killer. I can't even I mean, I never thought I'd get to see all of them. I mean, obviously ODB who's long passed away, he passed away in poo-poo. I think it was 06, I believe. Um, but we were privileged enough that during the concerts, uh young Dirty Bastard, his son, nice, steps in for him. Nice. He has the same amount of energy as his own. It's great. But what about you? I mean, I know the answer to this.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Yeah, you know the answer to it. I knew the I knew your answer too. Of course. But my favorite band was and is still currently Metallica, and I don't care what anybody says about Napster. They weren't the only ones.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Uh my second favorite artist was a part of that in MM. He actually made a documentary about it.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

So they weren't the only ones, so stop shitting on them about if you don't like them because of that, then you're an idiot and you don't know anything about music.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

You didn't like their music to begin with then. They separate the art from the artist.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

And the funny thing for me is that what really got me into them was my buddy CJ, who, like I said, was he's my best man at my wedding. We've been friends for damn near 30 years. He's like another brother. On top of, you know, you and my buddy Dave. Absolutely. You know, we're all we're all more like brothers. I mean, hell, we've all hung out for stuff and you know, done things together. And I wish I had had Dave on here for the uh Star Wars episode because he's a massive Star Wars fan, like we are.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

We'll get there one day.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

He would have been fun. Yeah. But no, Metallica, man, it just I mean, you can't go wrong. I I went through a I went through a really tough time in my late teens in high school where my parents were going through a divorce and things got nasty, and I was depressed at the time. I didn't know I was depressed at the time. And at that point in time, we didn't talk about that kind of stuff. It was just suck it up and just deal with it. So while you're quietly dying on the inside, you need that release, and it's like, what can I find to get that release? And then for me it was them because it was just it was everything from kill them all to that point SM. And it was just a lot of the early stuff, obviously, is more aggressive, you know, early thrash metal, and that's what really helped get me through a lot of stuff uh as a teenager. And it a lot of people don't know that about me.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

I went through a lot, yeah, just inner turmoil a lot, like well, and that's but they helped heavy metal people don't understand this. Heavy metal punk and hip hop all have a underground um connection to each other, they all feed off each other, and a lot of us back then, me included, um, as you, Bob, was going through shit. We didn't go through a divorce, but it was one of those where my parents should have divorced, if that makes sense. Um, so it was the same with me. It was hip hop in the 90s was gritty, it was grimy, it was that's how I was feeling. So that's what I went to. You it was a dark time and that heaviness, it made you feel like in this in the in the subject matter, it just felt like it was like, wait a minute, somebody this music is audio of my my feelings.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Right, it spoke to the teenage angst, basically, is what it did. Looking back on it now as a 43-year-old adult, yeah, and having two teenagers that are going through that same teenage angst because they don't understand their body's hormones, life, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Insert adjective here. You can go, well, this is how I felt at that point in time, and I can only help guide you and give you my, you know, my knowledge of what I went through, and maybe it'll help. But here, listen to this heavy stuff instead.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Yep. You know, well, and that was, you know, and that's one way we can bond with our children is we go, hey, check it out. This is what what we did when we were, you know, if if you're not comfortable, because like I tell Ty, like, you know, if you're not comfortable telling me what's going on with you, still find a release. Yeah. For me, it was music.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Don't keep it in.

SPEAKER_00 35:12

Yeah. Yep. Uh, so yeah, so absolutely, you know, and again, like I said earlier, it's that emotional tie that keeps us to these, like Wu-Tang. It changed my world. It was something I'd never seen before. Right. Um, we'll go into my my my second real quick. Um, Eminem. Also, people know. Yeah. Um, I I'm a huge MM fan. Uh, there's gonna be a lot of oohs and ahs. Um, you know, I I'm also not above, you know, obviously he didn't hit on every single record. Um, but the dude had, I mean, you you can say what you want about him being mainstream. People say, Oh, we only made it because he's white. Well, if he only became one of the greatest hip-hop stars because he's white, how come no other one has ever done it? Right. Um, I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_01 35:56

I like Eminem.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

He uh his music from Infinite, even though that was widely different than uh the Slim Shady LP, but we'll start there because that's when Dre found him. If you go there all the way up to the Eminem show, even we'll even add uh Encore and Relapse a little bit, even though Encore is my least favorite album from him. Um it sounds vastly different than now. The difference is the musicality of that music back there was more cohesive, and now he's a more technical rapper. It's about the art, yeah, it's about the tendres, it's about the the way he can spill in and out of a game. Well, that his chop and rap, and the way he can tie syllables together that shouldn't match to make them rhyme and bend words. There's there's very few like him. Um, and I I I insist that you that that you you know you give the guy a listen if you love hip-hop, because you know, again, you know, I am not ignorant to the fact that hip-hop and rap is black culture, it is right, but some of us love that, yeah. And Eminem is also one of those. That's another thing I love about him. He never has a time where he doesn't try to give to the people that paved the way before him. If you listen to his rock hall of fame, and we can talk about whether he should be there or not in another subject. I don't want to get into that. But his introduction, all he did was write a list of all the rappers that hopefully. I saw that. I mean, good. The guy is so humble.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Yeah, it was a good call to do that.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

So, what's what's another one of your favorite artists?

SPEAKER_01 37:39

I'm gonna go back to Hard Rock. In fact, I was just listening to him when we when I pulled up over here, but uh Godsmack is one of my one of my all-time faves. And I never figured it, but I've seen them uh a couple times in concert. They're fantastic live. It's just another one of those situations where it was uh it was that time in my life, different, a little bit different time in my life at that point, a couple years later. And it got me through things, and it just a lot of their early stuff really spoke to me, and everybody always shits on like whatever, and you know, voodoo was so overplayed. I'll agree with that, but it's still a good song.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

I I I wish I wish we could get past those um judgments on music.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

Is that not gatekeeping?

SPEAKER_00 38:30

That's exactly what that is. Um and it's ridiculous because we'll get into that later because there is one subject, and I'll I'll I'll I'll tease it, and that's guilty pleasures. And when I say that, I'm not saying that as we're not allowed to listen to it, but what I'm saying is is the people that know you, if you're a music lover, they know what you like to listen to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So when something's not a little out of that wheelhouse, um, it'll tend to throw you off. So that's what I mean by guilty pleasures. But I'm gonna go into another one because I I do want to get to a couple that are not hip-hop. Um famously a band that Bob's not the biggest fan of, but I am a diehard fan of, and that would be Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon. Um, they were pioneers. Um, they still to this day hold the record. They were on the Billboard Top 100 for over 700 weeks with Dark Side of the Moon.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Actually, when they updated it here the last couple years, it was over 990 weeks, almost a thousand weeks for Dark Side.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

That as long as it stays on the list, it'll never be beaten.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Now, I will tell you, obviously, that's one of your favorites. I know that. In fact, we've talked at nauseum about it yet again. But there are quite a few songs that I do enjoy by them.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

They're different, and I understand that a lot of people don't like a lot of instrumentals. Um a lot of people don't like the so the so-called psychedelic side of it. I enjoy that because it takes you to a place of euphoria and a place to, you know, hippie. Get to, yeah. But I will say this um their earlier stuff is trash. Um, they obviously came out of the same, they recorded in the same areas as the Beatles, they came out of the same areas, um, and they pardon me. Um it wasn't until they created Dark Side of the Moon. Fun fact about that, I know a lot about Pink Floyd, guys. Um, there's many iterations of Pink Floyd. There's the original Pink Floyd, which was Sid Barrett, Roger Waters, Nick Mason, and Rick White. Uh Sid Barrett, who basically founded them, yeah, um, got really heavy into acid to the point where it fried his brain. There's there's documentaries on it, guys. If you watch it, he lost he he went crazy.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

Um they reached out to a friend of Sid's named David Gilmore Gilmore to come in and play with him because what Sid Barrett would do when they were starting to play live is he would just start playing what he wanted to play, or he would refuse to play, and he would just sit there, or he would he was just he was out of his mind. So they brought him in, and that was the early days when they sounded like the Beatles. And then there was a show that they had to do, and he had done that, and they had another show the next night, and they just never picked him up again. And then that was the dark side of the moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall, Um, and that stuff. Um, but yeah, Pink Floyd. So what about you? What's another one of yours?

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Another one of my favorites, and I'm gonna shock you, but you probably already know. And you alluded to it earlier, being stuck in the 90s with hip with hip-hop. I'm gonna go Tupac.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

You can't go wrong with Pac.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

I always enjoyed it. I loved, and I and I feel bad for some of these kids nowadays. In fact, a kid I work with, he's like 26. And real big into hip-hop, but it's the new stuff, and I'm like, bro.

SPEAKER_00 42:07

Let me sit with him for a bit.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Yeah, like bro. And I started talking about the 90s, you know, mid-90s rap, you know, wars with you know, East Coast and West Coast.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Which, just so you guys know, we that was complete we did, but that was completely media driven. Right, but it was I mean, there there was beefs, but it wasn't as big as they made it out to be.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

But it was fun to turn on MTV every day and go, what's going on now?

SPEAKER_00 42:32

Dude, the 95 Source Awards, I tell you everything. And if you guys don't know, go back and watch that.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

And that's all I could really say about Tupac because listen to it. But we're gonna get to something else a little bit later, I'm sure. There's more evidence.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

Uh I I do want to go, we'll go one more artist and we'll move topics. I want to go to this one because I would be remiss if I left out 90s RB. Guys, I have talked with Bob about this, I've talked with Jermaine and Vani, um, I've talked with Rihanna. Everything, and I mean everything, is pop music now. It doesn't matter what it is, it's all pop music.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

Every genre, every level, and unless you're 90s RB was something to behold.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

You had your Jodicey, you had Silk, you had H Town, you had uh Jodice. There were so many. But my absolute favorite RB group of all time, and Jermaine, you'll be clapping, is Jagged Edge. Um Jagged Edge, nice. Fun fact. So we used to do a thing called grad night when we graduated, and they would take us to, at that time, it still existed, Geaga Lake. Now, at the time I didn't know this, but I at that time didn't have a girlfriend. So I took Jermaine. You could take one person. I went to him and I said, Hey, if we pay for the ticket, can I bring another person? They were like, Sure. So I brought Tommy Burton. So it was us. Okay. Nice. We get there, Jagged Edge and Monifa. Are performing. No kidding. At Jaga Lake? At Geoga Fucking Lake. Wow. Blew my mind. And if you guys don't know, Jagged Edge is actually a RB group of a set of two twins. Okay. Two brothers. And they just their music is just they're so good together. I've seen them live once. But I just wanted to get to other genres because even though I'm a hip-hop head, guys, I do love music. So I wanted to throw them in there. What should we go next? Should we go? Alright, we'll go into albums next. Moving right along. We'll go to favorite albums. This one. There's so many for me.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

Give me a couple. Give me a couple.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

I'll throw you a couple. Throw me a couple. My favorite album of all time. A lot of people don't know this because they would assume it would be Wu-Tang Raminem. But my favorite music album of all time is an album by Scarface the rapper. It's called Scarface the Diary. If you get a chance to listen to it, it's very, very, very gangster rap type music. Very dark. But if you get a chance, I'm just going to rattle off five.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

I'm going to throw in a recent one, which has actually moved into my top five. Really? So there's a group called The Clips. I'll try to make this quick. It was two brothers. There's a group called The Clips. And they had come out in the early 2000s. And Pharrell had found them. And Pharrell was producing them. Oh, nice. And then, like I said, it's two brothers, and then the one brother quit. He didn't want to do it anymore. And then there was Pusha T, and he decided to go on a solo career. And then he ended up getting signed to Kanye's label. And he's been a master since. I've heard him. He did a battle.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

He also did a collab with Lincoln Park on the class. And he did a great job.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Yes. And he also was famously in a first person to ever beat Drake in a beef. Wow. But their last album, it was their first album as a group in 16 years. It was called Let God Sort Him Out. And it's it's a masterpiece. It's classic from start to finish. I love it. It still gets rotation play today, and it came out, I believe, August of 24. Still gets mad play. Maybe it was last year. And then I'm going to go Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Solid Choice.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

And then I think I'm going to go The Eminem show by Eminem. Oh, good choice, too. And I think I think that yeah, that should round out my my my five. There's other ones on there I have listed, but are those in any particular order, or is this the only one that's number one is Scarface the Diamond. Okay. That that hasn't left number one in 30 years. That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 46:59

So that's fair. Yeah. I am similar on what my number one is. It's it hasn't moved out of that spot in Yeah, since the mid-90s. And that's the black album. You can't go wrong with an album where you can listen to every single song and just not skip it and go, God damn, this is so good.

SPEAKER_00 47:18

In in in heavy metal rock albums, it's it's it's definitely in my top ten. Yeah. I mean, maybe top five if I actually sat down and thought about it.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

Right. That's that's my number one. I've done a lot of thinking in the last few days about it, because I mean we we talked about this episode for quite a bit. Like, ah, we want to definitely want to do this. This is gonna be sweet. This is kind of in our both of our wheelhouses for a lot of stuff because we both love music. And my number two, I kind of kicked it around because I've been listening to quite a bit of music. Because I drive a truck for a living. I'm on the road, you know, eight hours a day, 40 hours a week. And I've got a lot of time in between music and podcasts, but I've been getting back to some of my roots and what I loved as a teenager lately. And I'm gonna have to say that my number two is awake by Godsmack. There you go. And it's gonna be obviously it's my list, it's probably gonna be rock heavy, metal heavy. And obviously, you heard I I drove up to the house today jamming awake. Absolutely, and they're one of my favorite bands. Number three is probably gonna be Down with the Sickness by Disturbed.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Great album.

SPEAKER_01 48:35

And that's those are my those are actually my top three favorite bands of all time. And it's just because I'm a little bit older. I'm you know, my dad would be vastly different. He'd be like he'd be like the Beatles, the Eagles, you know, the Rolling Stones, shit like that, which all fine. All fine. And actually, I'm gonna put on my number four would be Hotel California by the Eagles. That uh, yeah, you can't go wrong with that. And I actually got to see them. I took my dad a few years ago to see them. They were on they they played Hotel California front to back, and it was beautiful because every song on that is just like it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

I think the majority of them are hits, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

Like singles. And then my number five is probably not gonna shock or surprise you. But it is it is one of my favorite albums of all time that I have just enjoyed and loved since I was a teenager, and that's all eyes on me by Tupac.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

It's gonna be the majority of people's favorite Tupac albums, without a doubt.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

But see, for me, like right behind that is I I love Machiavelli.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

I we it so that that could come into play with And Doggy Style by Snoop. So that's all kind of iconic album again. For me, there's so many albums I could have added to that list.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

It's hard to kill like we did five, and it's like my brain is exploding. I wrote about 20.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

Right. Um, and again, because it can change from day to day. The only one that never changes is the number one for you. It just I can go back to that. I can recite every lyric from the start to the back. Uh, it's just it's it's so good.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:17

Uh now we'll go to the in my opinion, probably the hardest question um is favorite songs. I dreaded this one because this literally can go by mood.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Yeah. Oh, if you're pissed, happy, uh ejaculating, uh, all of you.

SPEAKER_00 50:41

Yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever you're doing. I mean, you know, screaming naked in the middle of a field. It doesn't matter. You never know.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

High on meth, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 50:49

It doesn't matter. Um I'm gonna start with one that the artist isn't gonna surprise you, but the song might. Okay. And the reasoning behind the song might. Alright. Um, it's Shine on Your Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

See, that's one of the Floyd songs I like.

SPEAKER_00 51:08

It's it's it's like a 11 to 13 minute song. It's a good song. It's mostly instrumental, but the words that song was written and created by Pink Floyd for Sid Barrett. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Um thus the crazy diamond part or crazy part.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Both. And and I always loved that song, but it has a different meaning since my dad passed. Um yes, me and my dad didn't get along. Um I had a a lot of issues with him. There's a lot of things I didn't get to tell him. But he was my father. And I often, you know, I'll never forget, like, when he died, you know, I felt bad for a long time because there was a big relief off my shoulders because I was taking care of him. Oh, I don't want to say me. Rihannon was phenomenal at the time helping me take care of him.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

But you guys were taking care of him. And that's a lot on anybody's.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

When he died, there was a big relief. And I I'll never forget I had I was coming up to see him, and when I went up there, it was already like the the death rattle had already happened, and he was taking his last breath, and I just remember looking at him and saying, Shine on Pops. Yeah, yeah. And I and I went, ooh, I got chills. Yeah. Um, but but yeah, shine on your crazy diamond. If you guys get a chance, man, go and listen to it. It's a long song, it's a lot of instrumental, but it it's gonna take you to places.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:36

So what about you?

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Again, that was hard for me. Like song like this. There's so many songs. I'm actually gonna surprise you. And this is literally one of my favorite favorite songs. It didn't make the list because of my other favorite songs. But well it's just I like Prince. Oh, why are you I like Prince, but it's not what you think.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

It doesn't have to be. Prince did not make bad music. Right.

SPEAKER_01 53:11

I I love love the song Little Red Corvette.

SPEAKER_00 53:17

It's a great song.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

I I don't know what it's just it it hits all those boxes, it ticks every everything from me.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

Most people are gonna say purple rain. Yeah, and I love purple rain. Mine is not purple rain. I like Raspberry Beret. Dude, Raspberry Beret's a great song. I don't know why, but I love Raspberry Beret. I don't know what it is, it's Diamonds and Pearls, which was an actually later song. That was a 90s song. But no, that's dude, you're a red corvette. That's a great song. And you can't Prince is gonna come up if we we're gonna get to this last subject. And but uh I'm gonna we'll we'll go with a couple more. Um I'm gonna I'm gonna go one. This is for my this is for my hip-hop heads, and this is for this is for Vonnie and Jermaine. This song gets us hyped up, guys. You want to talk about a hype up song? You want to talk about Bia Bea by Ludacris? That's a great hype song. You want to talk about them, but I'm gonna tell you one you may not have heard of. It's called Any Up by a group called MOP. And there's a remix that has Buster rhymes on it, and just oh, it's it's so good. It's got Remy Ma. Uh, I think it's Remy Ma. But, anyways, um, and you want to talk about it. It's literally a song. Any up when they're saying that, they're basically saying, We're about to rob you. We're it literally the chorus goes, take rings off, take chains off. Like they're talking, but it the song is just, I'm telling you, you can you could be in the wilderness for two months living off the land, emaciated, and that song will come on, and you're good and you'll be ready to fucking rock the house. It is such a banger. So, what's another one for you?

SPEAKER_01 55:09

Say I went prince first. And this is just because I've it sounds great in a car. And I have a Cadillac, and it's got a bow system in it. But I really, really, really enjoy the song Bow Down by West Sai Connection.

SPEAKER_00 55:27

West Connection.

SPEAKER_01 55:29

That's a that's a deep one there that a lot of people go, like, the fuck are you talking about, bro?

SPEAKER_00 55:34

Such an underrated collab. What people don't know is those were three already like made artists that came together was Ice Cube, Mac 10, and Dub C. Yep. Uh that's a great song. That's another song that'll fucking get you hyped. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

Always. I gotta be careful when I'm driving. Like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

Oh, yeah. So I'm I'm gonna go with the song that this is gonna surprise you. Um, and then and then we'll move on to our next subject. But this song has a lot of emotional meaning for me. Um and it's I remember everything from Five Finger Death Punch. Um that's a great song, guys. For all the people that listen to this that like that want to know, you know, that that know me or you know, maybe work with me and you want to know, go listen to I Remember Everything about Five Finger Death Punch.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

It'll tell you that's a lot of childhood.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

It's a yeah, it's a lot of childhood trauma. I didn't have the best relationship with my brothers and sisters coming up. I didn't have the best relationship with my and that right there. I I still remember the first time I heard that. It was in my car, and Apple Music has a thing where it's called your station, and it'll play songs from your library, but then throw songs in it that are similar, and it just and it popped up, and I was like, ooh, I like the way this started. And I and I heard the words and I had to pull over. I started bawling my eyes out. I was like, this is me. Like this, this was you know, so many times as kids, like now there's there's a lot of outlets for mental health and stuff like that for people to get their feelings out and we're more open with hey, say how you feel. But back then, we didn't even know, like, you know, I've since been in therapy and I've done workbooks. I have attachment uh disassociation disorder, yeah, and it's because of my childhood. And this song, I could never put to words what I was feeling about my parents and my upbringing. And this song does it, it was it was I literally if I ever got to meet the lead singer when whoever it was when wrote that one, I would love to hug him and tell him that like I feel like you were in my brain when you wrote that.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

That was Ivan. Ivan's Ivan's deep-seated man. Just uh and he's sober now, which is I got one more. I got I got one more, and this is probably this is honestly probably my all-time most favorite song. And that's the Unforgiven one original Unforgiven by Metallicoff, the black album.

SPEAKER_00 58:02

That music video killer scared me to death when that motherfucker was in that room. Yeah. That was that way that's a but it's talk about put visuals to audio.

SPEAKER_01 58:16

Yeah, but it's a good song, it hits on every level for me. Lyrically, you know, just talking about, you know, obviously it says never free, you know, things like that. And it's more like kind of trapped in your head.

SPEAKER_00 58:29

As a kid, it was just holy shit, that's scary.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

When you get older and you go back and you listen to these songs, you go, holy shit, yeah, it's about being trapped in your mind and just you know you being your worst enemy and just being, you know, it's uh but one of one of the greatest, in my opinion, greatest guitar solos in a song. It's gotta be and supposedly one take.

SPEAKER_00 58:55

So I dude, I those guys are just uh artists. Alright. Um we'll go into I want to get to this last the one subject I want to get to last is I wanted to be last because this is Bob's wheelhouse and I want him to shine. But I got a couple of small little things I wanted to throw in real quick, just some odds and ends, facts, um, and and just things. But fun fact, and you knew this, but I'm gonna bring it up because I had to write it down. A lot of you guys might not know this, but Bob's favorite group has done a musical feat that has never been done by any artist, and really even close.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:34

Metallica is the only musical act in the world to have ever performed on all seven continents.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 59:43

Yes, they performed in Antarctica.

SPEAKER_01 59:47

You could go on YouTube and find that video. I watched it, isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_00 59:51

It's insane. I I can't. I that that's just that's amazing. Like that's you can't. Um, and I'm gonna bring up two subjects real quick, and I didn't tell you about these at all. All right, but I thought about these and I wrote them down. Okay, and I'm gonna say the names of both of them. They were on two different programs. Okay. Behind the music and pop-up video. Okay, beautiful. You remember them? I remember I loved Behind the Music. I learned so much. Pop-up video. Oh my god, about those. Like Behind the Music was great because you could learn like things that they were going through in their lives and like what led to a specific album and what led to their downfall. Pop-up video was great because it would come up with shit like when they were filming this scene in the music video, there was a banana peel, and you could see the weirdest shit. Yeah, but it was so cool. But I had to bring those up because only our Gen X and younger millennials will know that those ones. But I had to bring them up because they were so integral.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

All VH1. Yes, both VH1. That was the old people music channel when we were young.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

Um, and I'm gonna mention two things real quick that I wanted to bring up. Um, I have no reason for this, other than I think people should listen. But for my hip hop heads that are listening to, and for people who just want new music to listen to, I'm gonna give you an underground, not an underground, they're they're they're a little more well-known now, newer artists, and then an album that I want you guys to go listen to. Bob, you can do the same.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:23

Um, for my hip-hop heads, especially those that loved like 90s underground, um there was a rap group called The Arsonists, and they have an album called As the World Burns. And for people that like Bat Pat Rap and Conscious Rap and that kind of stuff, listen to this album. They have a song on there. It's called Lunchroom Takeout.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:50

It's okay. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

It's them in school with a friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

Oh, man, didn't we all do that back in school?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:01

They're battling each other. I bet that drove teachers insane. Oh, dude, we used to do it all the time. Right. Uh, and they're battling each other, and they're and it's a song. And it's yeah, that's it. That's a killer concept. It's fucking dude, they talk shit about each other. Oh, it's it's hilarious. Um, and then there is a new group that I love in hip-hop that is bringing hip-hop back. Now, if you guys like trap music and and drill music and all that, please be my guest. You need to have your generation sound, but know that it is not for me. But this group is, I mean, they're a little bit older now, they're in their late 20s, and I think one of them, Eric Jamal, is in his early 30s. But this group defines hip-hop, and there is a famous hip-hop West Coast artist named Razkaz. He had two twins, and two of his twins are in this group. They're called Coast Contra. I would be remiss to not mention these guys. They are everything hip-hop needs right now. Yeah. And if you guys get a chance, go on YouTube, look up Coast Contra, and they have what's called the table free styles. Just look them up, it'll change your life. So, do you have anything you would like to?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:13

Mine is gonna be more what I've been jamming to recently. That works too. And they've been around for a few years now, but and I think I've even sent you a song recently. They're called Spirit Box, and they have a female lead singer, and that is not to piggyback or foreshadow or segway or anything like that. They are one of or that is one of my guilty pleasures in music. I thoroughly enjoy a female fronted metal band or heavy band, or and they they do it in the way that she can really, really sing like Amy Lee from Evanescence. Absolutely, and then she can just guttural scream to where you just you're like, yeah. Yeah, it's like fuck.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

That that's what I love about Breaking Benjamin.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

New song came out the other day, by the way. It's fucking phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

Um we didn't even get to talk about Breaking Benjamin, but um the way they're gonna be like, because I like heavy music, I don't like the screaming. Yeah, when it's just that, right? If you're mixing it in like Breaking Benjamin, like a disturbed, like a spirit. Five finger. I'm five finger. I'm in for that. I love that. But when it's just that, I don't want to hear that. That's me. That's my opinion. I love I see why people like it. I get it. Um, all right. We we got one small topic, and then we're gonna get to the topic where you're gonna shine. Guilty pleasures. I'm just gonna give you my three guilty pleasures real quick in my life. Um, when I was younger, and I still have a crush on this girl, and you don't know this. Her first two albums were good for teenage angst, but I had the biggest crush on her, and I don't know why. That Avril Levine. I loved her. Um, I I I her first two albums were good. You can kiss my ass.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

Yeah. Um, and still beautiful. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

Well, she's pop now. Doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

And that's okay. Still beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:09

Um, my next one is Ed Sheeran. You can eat a dick if you don't like Ed Sheeran. My sister loves Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran is he is he is my daughter. Heterosexual life mate. I love that guy. And then my last one, everybody knows me. Me and Rihannon seen this gentleman live. Weird. Ow. Yink of it. I love it. Guys, this is how big of a fan I am. This the concert that me and Rihannon went to was all original songs. There was no parodies. Yeah. You have to singing for every fucking word. I know that dude's whole catalog. Didn't you guys do a meet and greet? You better fucking I have the picture in my phone right now. I will try to pull it up while you tell me yours.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:57

That's bad.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:58

Um absolutely. I have a photo. We got specialized watches, autographed set lists. Damn. Dude, they sec, and guess what? Take a wild guess at how much those tickets. Just take a guess. 200 bucks. You're not far off because you know now it does those meet and it's a thousand up.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:14

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

It was 275 a ticket. That's not bad for not for meet and greens. Oh man. So what are some of your guilty pleasures?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

Some of them. Well, I just alluded to one with female fronted rock bands. So I do I do enjoy that for whatever reason. I I like Evanescence. I like In This Moment. I like Spirit Box. I like Fly Leaf. I like Lacuna Coil. I like Kitty. I could go on and on with bands like that. One of them, surprisingly. And that's this is really thanks in part to my wife for bringing me kind of back into a little bit of that. But I enjoy country music.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:56

And there's nothing wrong with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:58

I enjoy country. In fact, one of my last concerts I went to, I took my wife to Packard Music Hall in Warren, Ohio, and we saw Mr. Brett Young.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:08

Nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:09

Which we actually used his song, in case you didn't know, for our first dance at our wedding.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

You absolutely did.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

And tell me if it wasn't slick, though, because I bought the tickets. And the concert was on Valentine's Day.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

Yeah, you won that day.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

I did. I got brownie points. Of course you did. And it wasn't even my intention. It was just to take her out, to get her away, and just to see that and to hear that song live. Yeah, country music. Yeah, it's good. A lot of it's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:41

This is what I tell people. I don't like country music. I do like country songs. Yes. Um, it's just not, you know, there's nothing wrong with it. Like I said, there's bangers out there. Um, it's just not typically the music that I go to. I have quite a few country songs on here. Like, I I'll go into um I, you know, you say what you will, I'm a jelly roll fan. I like jelly rolls. Um, fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

And that's not even a guilty pleasure. I just like jelly.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:07

No, that's why I didn't put him on there. I just like jelly. Um fun fact, he was not always a country star. Nope. Uh he was a rapper. Rapper. Um, my cousin uh was really close with him and has songs with him. He has an album out on yeah. Um, so yeah, if I ever find this photo, if not, I uh if not, so be it. But um so now we're gonna go into our last subject of our music episode, and this is when I thought of um this is gonna be, you know, I have my opinions, but obviously um Bob's gonna have a much uh uh maybe yeah, but your reasoning is is more technical than mine will be. And that's favorite guitarists. I wasn't gonna say best. Yeah, that's really subjective. Really, really subjective. And you're really gonna fucking piss a lot of people off with that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:01

And we're gonna piss people off anyways with whatever we pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

So yeah, and um I'll go first. Hit me with them. Um, do you want to go one-one, or you want me to just hit me with it all of them?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

Hit me with them.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:14

Okay. Here's I'm gonna give my five. Oh, real quick. You had short hair. Oh, dude, I was fat too. So I did meet weird out. Umber one, and I I know a lot of these lists people say, you know, one can be this one has to have the same person on the list, and that's Jimi Hendrix. If you don't have Hendrix as your number one, I don't even know. I mean, honestly, you could probably just leave him off the list and say he just you he's above that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

Alright, I can skip number one then because it's the same as yours.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:51

So I'm gonna go Hendricks, David Gilmore, Eric Clapton, B.B. King, Tom Morello.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:05

Ooh, Rage.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

Now I'm just gonna name the ones that I wrote down. I have a little more than five. Prince. He is so underranged. On my list. Slash Santana.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:16

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:18

Stevie Ray Von.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

God rest his soul.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:21

And here's one that I threw in here to know if you know him. He was very young when he came out, but a hell of a blues guitar player, and that's Johnny Lang. Johnny Lang.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:30

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:31

Those are my favorite guitarists.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:33

Favorite guitarists.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:34

Now I'll let you go more in depth because you know the technicality of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:38

Don't have to. Obviously, Hendrick's number one for for most everybody.

unknown 1:10:44

I forgot I'd ate Van Halen.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

I hate Van Halen.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:46

I don't like him either, but the dude is one of the greatest guitarists to ever grab. Very good. I'm not a fan of him neither, but his guitar play is. Yeah. But go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

I'm gonna defer Clapper. Clapton is is my number two. He he could be 1A1B with with Hendrix for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:03

So fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:04

That's why your name is Eric.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:06

I was named I my mom and dad loved Eric Clapton so much. If I was a girl, I was gonna be named Erica.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:12

Part of the reason my daughter's name is Layla is because of Derek and the Domino's Layla. And she hates the song, Go Figure. Go figure can't win for losing, no matter what I do. So what was that? Two, Clapton. Yeah, this is where it gets kind of BB King is gonna be my number three.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:32

I feel like if you leave him off your list, you don't know guitar.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:36

He was amazing. Believe it or not, he did an album with Eric Clapton. He did. Called Riding with the King.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:44

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

And it's a phenomenal blues album. I totally recommend everybody listen to that.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:50

If you're going to just instrumentals, blues is the way to go. Blues and jazz.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:53

Blues and jazz. And that's where I think some of my guitar favorite guitars come in to because when I started learning to play, it I was more blues. I wanted to do more blues stuff. Obviously loved heavy metal. So uh Joe Bonamassa is a fantastic musician. Uh Gary Moore is a fantastic blues guitar player. I'm kind of biased because Metallica's my favorite band. So Hetfield. Hetfield can be on there.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:28

Hammett Hammett, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:29

Hetfield is like a human metronome rhythm-wise, and his his right hand picking hand, it's insane because he's normally all downstrokes. He'll be playing 180 beats per minute, and it's all downstrokes. Try it, I dare you. I dare you. No, thank you. It's it would be like jacking off at ludicrous speed. Go.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:51

Yeah. Nah, I I I tried to play, I've tried to learn a couple times how to play guitar, and I'm just not. I have an ear for music, but I don't have the dexterity for music. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:02

It's it's a lot sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:06

Well, guys, I think we'll end it there. Um man, what an episode. We didn't get to the the the album covers, the actual like art arm album covers, but that's alright. Um, we can save that maybe for a side of another one. Um but again, guys, uh, I want to thank you again for all the people that's listening. We're up to over 75 downloads, which you know, we didn't know what we were gonna get. Um, I'm not gonna lie. I I didn't think that by our third episode we were gonna make it to 75 downloads. Um but uh thank you so very, very much. But um find us on all social media platforms. Um and um YouTube um YouTube will we'll now have video. Video!

SPEAKER_01 1:14:06

Uh we'll now have video ugly ass faces.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:08

Yeah, you guys, we had people ask us about it. You got it, you asked for it, so you gotta live with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:14

You can see why we're bearded.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:15

Maybe you'll hear the crunchy sometimes. Typically, guys, we go into a dad joke with Bob, but we are gonna change the gears for today, and I am gonna I'm gonna let him take this last one.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Gonna give me the floor. In lieu of dad jokes, and I I really wanted to do one because of music, but I've got the platform, and they're my fucking mics.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:45

So You heard it here, folks.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:48

My fucking mics. Eric's fucking laptop. See, we can, you know, it it's our shit. It's our platform. I gotta say a little something here. Um I'm actually going down to Nashville, Tennessee next weekend. My sister lives down there. My niece and my nephew are down there. My niece is graduating high school.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:14

Congratulations, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:16

Congratulations. I'm super proud of her. I don't get a chance to say it uh enough because of mileage and distance. I've been there since that little girl was born. Um but infinitely proud of her. I I'm so excited to be able to go down and and spend the time with them and see her. But just want you to get to get a little bit of information over uh about her. She uh is a tri star tristar scholar award uh winner. She's graduating cum laude. She is graduating a certified patient care technician and a certified medical assistant. She's gonna be majoring in nursing at Belmont, and uh her goal at the end of it all in her college career, she wants to get a master's and become a nurse practitioner. And I would say she's already well on her way.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:24

If she's come loud, come loud. Yeah, I I I think she's got that in the back. She you want to talk about driven and dedicated at 18. I was nowhere ready for life at that point.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:35

And she does, she does. I I think it's a assisted living care facility, I believe she works at already, has been. And she kind of followed in the footsteps of mama, and I will say to shout out to mama, by the way. Yeah, shout out to my sis. Phenomenal job raising these kids. Couldn't be more proud of you as a person, as my sister, as a fellow parent. I know how difficult it is, but you raised a couple good ones, and um I'm very proud of my niece. I can't wait to see what you do in the future, kid. Uncle Bob does love you.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:18

I I think everything you just mentioned needs a round of applause. Yo, uh, congratulations. That that's a feat. Like I said, I I definitely didn't have my stuff together. She knows what she wants to do. Uh, congratulations to you. All the best coming from uh your Uncle Bob's friend and Amanda. What a hell of a job you've done. So, um, again, guys, thanks for joining us. And on that note, we'll see you next week.